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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 104 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (16 children)

Yeah, so the thing is, any amount of trust that I had has already been completely destroyed. "We don't do it anymore because it's illegal, trust me bro" isn't going to cut it. Does the bill include mandatory prison time for executives for violations, or just cost-of-doing-business fines? Will this be enforced by a government regulatory body that is not literally outnumbered 20:1 by car manufacturer lawyers?

If the car has any kind of network capabilities and 100% of the car's software is not open source, I'm not buying it. Period.

This bill would not need to exist if cars were FOSS, or if cars were non-networked. Those are the only 2 solutions that I will accept. This bill is worthless to me.

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

It's nice to have principles, but in a few years you're going to have to find a new way to get around.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I mean, a lot of cars have a genuinely phenomenal life span, if you don't mind getting something that isn't shiny and new you can probably get like a 2012 Toyota or Honda and drive it till the wheels fall off. My dream car is from the 90s and people still generally regard them as fairly reliable

Eventually it'll be an issue, but that does leave a lot of time for nerds and hackers to find a way to gut networking stuff while telling the car it's still intact. Dunno if we'll ever see an open source car OS compatible with the systems in major manufacturer's vehicles, but privacy workarounds feel like they could be pretty realistic

[–] Anivia 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

My dream car is from the 90s and people still generally regard them as fairly reliable

I would not want to share the road with modern oversized cars while driving a car with 90s crash safety

I drive a Miata as a 2nd car for weekend fun, but it's not a real option as a daily driver if you value your life

Not to mention that it uses 8 liters of gas per 100km, whilst my daily driver averages 12wkh per 100km

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thats fair. A na miata is basically my dream car, I hope to someday daily one in spite of being from the 90s 😅

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