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You're comparing tangibles to intangibles, hypotheticals, and combining it with a very confused sense of morality.
The fact that you can't see past Trump to understand that actually killing one million human beings is worse then anything he did, is depressing.
Do you not understand that Trump can be a malignant tumor and dangerous all on his own, without having to pretend that anything he did even remotely compares to directly killing 1 million innocent people?
Or maybe you don't care because they're Arab? I know you'll balk at that, throw out all the right signifiers, and maybe even throw a "how dare you" my way, but I'm not left with many other options to understand to your rational.
Yes, Trump hasn't killed a million people. Trump was not the president in the days after 9/11, where the majority of americans supported a war on Iraq. Trump did not have the same opportunity to kill a million people that Bush did.
However, we can see Trump's opinions on Palestine. We can see Trump's opinions on Ukraine. We can see just as much malicious support of genocide as Bush had, if not more. The only difference is the opportunity to act on it.
So I won't use the Iraq war as a marker of morality. That's not a fair comparison.
I will instead judge them based on a situation that both of them had, where only one of them took it. Bush had the opportunity to cheat on his wife and embezzle campaign funds to hide it. Bush had the opportunity to hide government secrets in his private residence. Bush did not do these things.
Please note that being better than Trump is such a fucking low bar, it's astonishing you think that means I'm saying Bush isn't a piece of shit. Less repugnant than Trump is still fucking repugnant.
That's a lot of words to basically justify why the extermination of one million people isn't that bad relative to myriad of shitfuckery Trump did.
Oh, and Incase you forgot, Bush did actually succeed at stealing an election. So...there's that.
1 stolen election + 1 million dead arabs < Stormy Daniels and a failed attempt at stealing an election.
Your politics and sense of humanity have to be so so broken and destroyed by social media consumption to even entertain that idea, but you're full on tripling down on it.
Damn. I hope you touch grass and see the light someday.
Please actually read someone's comment before summarising it. You'll do a better job if you do that.
Bush has done a terrible deed that Trump did not have the opportunity to do. Trump has done multiple terrible deeds that Bush DID have the opportunity to do.
Saying Trump is better than Bush is like saying I'm a better friend to you than that burly sailor. Sure, I didn't sleep with your mother, but we know damn well that I would have if I had the chance.
In other words, you've nullified the murder of 1 million innocent people by Bush, in order to rationalize why Trump is worse.
But please, write another five paragraphs justifying why those deaths shouldn't count here. I'm sure eventually you'll figure out the right semantic argument that almost passes muster for someone of slightly below average intelligence.
I'd actually respect you more if you just said that you care about the danger Trump poses to American democracy more than a million dead Arabs. At least you'd finally be open and honest about the political and moral views you clearly hold.