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In a post-scarcity solarpunk future, I could imagine some reasonable uses, but that’s not the world we’re living in yet.


AI art has already poisoned the creative environment. I commissioned an artist for my latest solarpunk novel, and they used AI without telling me. I had to scrap that illustration. Then the next person I tried to hire claimed they could do the work without AI but in fact they could not.

All that is to say, fuck generative AI and fuck capitalism!

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (7 children)

And self hosting requires money and skill. This means there is a lot of people who lack both and may then use closed source models.

This is what we've mostly to solved with the AI Horde, where we allow people to rely on self-hosted open models.

[–] paw 8 points 4 months ago (6 children)

This is good news indeed.

But I see the same problems as with email, chat etc. You can selfhost almost everything. But too few people are doing it. You can use Linux as your Desktop and at least 4% are doing it. Still too few if you ask me.

And if most of the people keep using the commercial and closed source options over the self hosted one, then I see this concentration of power. Additionally, there is the risk of regulatory capture, where big companies may try to at least hinder self hosting due to (what I consider) made up risks.

However, its good that there are currently such good open source option. I hope they will grow and become the defacto standard.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But I see the same problems as with email, chat etc. You can selfhost almost everything. But too few people are doing it. You can use Linux as your Desktop and at least 4% are doing it. Still too few if you ask me.

The system is explicitly setup so that normal people don't need to set up anything. Experts and enthusiasts are the one doing the complex work, while normies just use a simply client like this and power users can also use more advanced clients.

And if most of the people keep using the commercial and closed source options over the self hosted one, then I see this concentration of power.

That's up to all of us to counter by promoting the good solutions instead, not of just despairing and begging politicians to fix this (they won't, they'll promote monopolies instead)

[–] paw 3 points 4 months ago

That's up to all of us to counter by promoting the good solutions instead, not of just despairing and begging politicians to fix this (they won't, they'll promote monopolies instead)

That was always the case. Having said that, I'll appreciate your enthusiasm and that you share this work.

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