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Lmao genocide is not a “highly complex geopolitical issue”
It is neocolonialism that has been going on for a while (not 1000 years??) and is now ramping up to full on blatant murder, genocide, and devastation for the Palestinian peoples.
I can think of something US govt can do literally right now to help; STOP GIVING ISRAEL FUCKING WEAPONS!
But then the poor investors of aero/defense industrial complex will whine and complain that their Raytheon stock went down 5% ☹️. Can’t have that now can we
I don't think any of this is controversial to people who understand the world and don't huff paint all day.
The problem is in terms of this coming election, using these arguments to allow Trump to get into office will only make the situation far worse, and everyone knows this. Or should know it, it's pretty obvious, so it's confusing and suspect when people supposedly on the left are trying to discourage us from voting dem in a couple weeks.
You vote dems, they know genocide is not a deciding issue for their voters. So they will continue genocide and probably expand it, as it is normalized.
You punish them for it and they need to provide a non genocide platform four years down the line.
It is particularly sad that the "there is no time" argument is brought since January. It was also brought against exchanging clearly mentally declined Joe Biden out of the race. I have the feeling there is a lot of gaslighting and also social media propaganda by the Dems establishment, to keep their base in line. Of course it goes with attacking everyone who demands to pressure the dems to stop genocide as Putin or Trump shills.
The online discourse on the center/center left side has become significantly more aggressive and centered around whoever is in power in the party at the time. When you look at how people here lash out, it looks a lot like the donald or conservative on reddit in 2016, 2020 and now again (minus the donald). So with that Trump still wins strategically as he crushed the political culture on the vocal Dems side too.
But just with Biden stepping out of the race, the same people who attacked everyone as Putin bot for saying Biden is too old, then said how they always supported Harris and how great a move the change it. It lacks consistency, it lacks principles it lacks morals.
It is clear to me that there is no empathy towards anyone, especially not racialised people. Ironically the third party movement has many black and muslim Americans, who are at a much greater threat from Trump. But they understand that the white Liberal is not their ally. And they understand that normalizing genocide abroad, will normalize genocide at homc.
Meanwhile the only people who seem to not care about Trump being elected is the Democrats establishment, whod rather hand the election to Trump than listen to the American people and uphoald American as well as international law.
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And how do you do that? How do you change the entrenched power in the Parties? They do not care about protests. They do not care about opinion polls. They do not care about the local levela delegates. In fact they are happy to oust Senators who try to run on a no genocide platform.
So unless you are one of the billionaire donors to the party or you start assassinating the paety elites i dont see any other way than to not vote for them.
Oh we can do it, but nobody likes the answer when I give it.
The answer is we need to all be collectively more involved in our communities, in our towns, our cities, our counties and states. We need to hold some fucking yard-sales and pass out free lemonade to our neighbors and learn their names, learn where their kids go to school, learn who the local neighborhood organizers are, learn who is running for office in our districts, attend town-meetings and get to know who is representing us.
The reason we feel like we can't change things up high is because we have all allowed the foundational systems that support the highest offices to run unmanaged, unmaintained. Our local representation should be a garden or a bonsai tree, it never stops, you never leave it alone. If we all pushed harder on the power we have to change our local representation, those people would represent our values. We have countless local and state elections running nearly or completely unchallenged, and certainly not with the scrutiny we give the powerless figureheads that captivate media attention every four years.
The only time I've ever seen widescale public interest in midterm elections was when we lost rights. We can't do that. We can't be reacting to changes in politics, we have to get ahead of it.
And it takes human connection, the one thing everyone seems to be running from.
That American flag that we now associate with rednecks and hate and Trump, we lost that icon when it should be representing our neighborhoods and our values and ideals and our hope for a just and equitable future. And the reason we lost the flag is because the good people who deserve the flag felt too powerless to challenge the loud assholes.
We have to teach each other to challenge the loud assholes.