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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21396569

Moira Donegan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 06.07 EDT

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[–] confluence@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago (11 children)

When is Trump going to break with it?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (10 children)

When the election is over, what are centrists going to do when they can't pretend that anyone who doesn't support genocide is a trumper?

[–] confluence@slrpnk.net -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why would not supporting the genocide make one a trumper? He supports it too.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I dunno. Why is all criticism of Harris/Biden supporting genocide met with "Yeah?! Whatabout Trump?! You want Trump to win?"

Because that's what centrists do when they get criticism about the only policy centrists won't immediately abandon at the slightest pressure.

[–] confluence@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I can only speak for myself. If the polls are any accurate indication, my fear of Christian Nationalism overthrowing democracy in the United States may soon be realized. They appear neck and neck, so anything that shits on Kamala, I feel like it needs to fall on Trump's head too. After the election, I can shit on Kamala's genocidal dreams without needing to invoke Trump.

The article is about costing her the election on the genocide issue, which is fucked up because voting her down only puts the other pro-genocide in, plus the Christian Nationalists.

If it matters, I'm not a centrist.

[–] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because that's literally the dynamic at the moment in American politics. If Kamala loses, Trump wins. Do you want Kamala or Trump to win. Splitting with Israel is not on the table, so drop it and focus on other issues, such as American not turning into Gilead.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

If Kamala loses, Trump wins. Do you want Kamala or Trump to win.

Kamala. When she wins, what will be your new excuse to forbid all criticism of the genocide?

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