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LLMs can’t reason — they just crib reasoning-like steps from their training data (pivot-to-ai.com)
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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 62 points 1 month ago (56 children)

Did someone not know this like, pretty much from day one?

Not the idiot executives that blew all their budget on AI and made up for it with mass layoffs - the people interested in it. Was that not clear that there was no “reasoning” going on?

[–] khalid_salad@awful.systems 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

Well, two responses I have seen to the claim that LLMs are not reasoning are:

  1. we are all just stochastic parrots lmao
  2. maybe intelligence is an emergent ability that will show up eventually (disregard the inability to falsify this and the categorical nonsense that is our definition of "emergent").

So I think this research is useful as a response to these, although I think "fuck off, promptfondler" is pretty good too.

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