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[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

In this thread: Shit loads of people who will say they care about the climate crisis on one day, then say they don't care about the 18.5% of global carbon emissions that the meat industry causes the next day because they can't get over the decade worth of anti-veganism jokes and memes that they've constantly repeated uncritically.

Individual habits MUST be changed to solve this part of the problem, there is literally no way around that. Getting triggered and writing screeds because you've spent decades getting caught up in hate over food choices won't stop the planet burning.

[–] HeurtisticAlgorithm9@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No amount of individual choices can save the planet. The climate change causes by corporations is sufficiently world ending. So even if literally every single person on the planet went vegan it wouldn't be enough. The idea of a personal carbon footprint was created by BP in order to make people put the blame on themselves. The only way to stop it is mass industrial action. Personal choice, at least at this point, is completely irrelevant.

[–] Djennik@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only way to do this is to not buy products that are incredibly harmful to the climate and voting for politicians that want to sharpen climate policy. Industries won't regulate themselves. Acting like the consumer/voter can't do shit is just straight up lying and results in inaction.

[–] HeurtisticAlgorithm9@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never said anything about not voting for industrial action. But if you look at it logically, if there's no industrial action with or without consumer choices the world burns, but if there is industrial action then with or without consumer choices (partly because the industrial action would alter what choices are available) the world has a chance to survive. So in our current situation devoting energy and thought to consumer choices is not just pointless if you would otherwise be working towards industrial action in any capacity it is actively detrimental (hence why BP created it as a concept)

[–] Djennik@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again who is going to work towards industrial action? Not the industries... That's not how capitalism works. Do you really think that asking them to be more climate friendly will work?

Industries listen to two things: money and policy. And I'm not even so sure about the latter. Vote at the ballot and vote with your wallet.

If you don't want to change, the CEO of BP won't either because he's still getting those tasty dollars out of your pockets at the pump and through government aid.

[–] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago

How do you think regulations work?? The poster is correct, no amount of individual action will save us. We need to collectively fight for regulations that force - not ask - businesses to change. “That’s now how capitalism works” — what does that even mean??

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