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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (25 children)

Could you walk me through steering them left when they're in power? Over the years the democrats seem to only get more right wing. The thing is, I always thought that you steer politicians through your vote, and if I guarantee my vote to you regardless of what you have done in the past or are currently doing, what incentive do you have to change course in a way that I like?

[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago (9 children)

The thing is, I always thought that you steer politicians through your vote

To some extent, yes. However the amount of steering you can do this way is rather limited, since a vote only indicates a preference of one candidate over the other.

For example, if you decide to vote Republican out of protest, Democrats might conclude that you like republican policies, and to win your vote back, they need to move even further right. If you decide to stay home and not vote, you don't really give any information to democrats what they actually need to do. They may decide that you are an unlikely voter in any case, and focus towards those folks most likely to turn out (that's generally older white conservative folks).

One option is to vote for some leftist third party. This sends a pretty clear message about what policies you like. The problem is that, apart from the messaging, your vote is almost certainly wasted. You are in effect helping your enemy win in the short term.

The other option is to engage politically outside of just voting. Most people have been convinced by establishment politicians that your only influence is your vote. This is not true. Protests, activism, grassroots movements, local politics are all effective ways to steer your preferred party in your preferred direction. This does require substantially more effort.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When the Republicans win, the Democrats hear "move right". It's as simple as that.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

And also when the democrats win, if you look at the way policy has evolved during the clinton years, during the obama years, and also now during the biden years.

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