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And if something did maybe happen, it's the CIA's fault

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[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (34 children)

Well, to be perfectly clear, here in Mexico happened a students massacre in the Three Cultures square in 1968. The CIA was involved.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 10 points 2 days ago (24 children)

Americans will post a meme about Tianimen Square while eating a Chiquita banana.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (22 children)

Americans can, and will, openly discuss this stuff, and think badly of their government for it, and won't get in trouble with the government for doing so publicly.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Tell that to Chelsea Manning.

Sure, the US is mostly freer with information than a country that is unabashedly authoritarian. But ask Ron DeSantis what he was doing at Guantanamo, or the CIA what they did in Latin America. If you don't think the US hides plenty from its citizens, you haven't been paying attention.

Our Tianimen Square was Kent State, or maybe the MOVE Bombing, or all of the documented police violence against protesters and marginalized people. Fat lot of good it does that we can talk about them when nothing changes.

I think it makes more sense to hold our government to account than point out the flaws of people we don't like.

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago

I don't recall Kent State protesters killing anyone.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

Yes, I was actually going to say that a more apt comparison would have been Kent state.

If the subject is Kent state, or the US para-military manipulation of south America, and all you do is come into the comments whatabouting China's bullshit, you are there because you sided with the US, over China. This is what is happening here, in reverse. You can tell me all the long history of shit, that I already am keenly aware of, that the US have done. You are still missing the point.

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