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Description: A meme with the caption "Okay so that was trolley problem version number 7. Janeway opted to run over five Tuvixes instead of one EMH." Below is a picture of the inside of a trolley with Janeway smiling and covered in gore. Michael and Eleanor from The Good Place are on either side of her. Michael is taking notes and Eleanor is amazed.

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[–] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You have the option of killing 5 people or killing 1 person and you just let it go ahead and kill 5 people?

I'm going to disagree that you found a solution.

Some things in life don't have solutions, only compromises.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The trolley problem decision is entirely dependent on the amount of detail that's provided.

What if the 5 people are 5 Jeffrey Dahmers, and the 1 person is Mr Rogers? What if those 5 Dahmers had been reformed and had spent the past 20 years in selfless charitable service to orphans, and the Mr Rogers was 98 and expected to live only a few more months?

You can twist the conditions endlessly to sway the decision either way; however, I tend to agree with you: if you're given only the most basic information, the best choice is to save the most people.

If you choose not to decide,
You still have made a choice.
[–] teft@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's also dependent on what type of moral philosophy you subscribe to. A strict utilitarian will answer differently than someone who practices Kantian deontology.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago

Very true. I think Buddhists might agree with the top comment that the only moral action in this case is no action.

That's why, despite being a trite, overused topic whicha and any serious philosopher cringes at whenever it's brought up, I think it's a pretty interesting situation, where the answer says a lot about the responder. But it's been beaten to death, and I'm sure professionals are sick of hearing about it.