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Well, AI made our search unusable dogshit. But AI also made us miss our climate goals, so (apnews.com)

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[–] self@awful.systems 117 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (54 children)

there’s this type of reply guy on fedi lately who does the “well actually querying LLMs only happens in bursts and training is much more efficient than you’d think and nvidia says their gpus are energy-efficient” thing whenever the topic comes up

and meanwhile a bunch of major companies have violated their climate pledges and say it’s due to AI, they’re planning power plants specifically for data centers expanded for the push into AI, and large GPUs are notoriously the part of a computer that consumes the most power and emits a ton of heat (which notoriously has to be cooled in a way that wastes and pollutes a fuckton of clean water)

but the companies don’t publish smoking gun energy usage statistics on LLMs and generative AI specifically so who can say

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 17 points 4 months ago (3 children)

there’s this type of reply guy on fedi lately who does the “well actually querying LLMs only happens in bursts and training is much more efficient than you’d think and nvidia says their gpus are energy-efficient” thing whenever the topic comes up

This kind of person (also happened a lot with cryptocurrencies) always goes 'that isn't how it works, this isn't a problem' then doesn't explain what the mistake is you are supposed to have made, and then a few weeks/months/days/search later it is revealed that it was how it works and it is a huge problem. And it is so annoyingly common im very happy with the moderation here.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I just want to be able to legally punch people who think NFTs would bring down TicketMaster. It's the peak of not understanding how things work and injecting a solution just because it's high tech.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 7 points 4 months ago

one that already exists - you can go to a show and your "ticket" is a hash you were sent in email and they cross it off at the door

[–] self@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it’s so common that I wish there was a specific name to put to that and every other type of reply guy that cryptocurrencies, chan culture, and meme stocks “gifted” us. it feels like the bullshit tactics cropped up faster than anyone really was able to catalog them, though a lot of them are really recognizable when you’ve seen them a few times.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm guessing that "obscurantist proponent" is not exactly an ideal option, sorta lacks that punch for precise poignant use in an enraged soliloquy

I'll give it a ponder see if my brain delivers an option

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 3 points 4 months ago

weak attempt: replyribbon; linear, unsophisticated, prone to reuse without much change, and extremely easy to rip to shreds

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 months ago

jeez fuck this is just reality negationism at this point

you could snipe it down with canned response like r/buttcoin does (there are only so many types of these people), and it could count as a win because reply guy isn't there to win debate, he's there to spread his propaganda, but here, it's too much effort for no gain because nobody will be swayed anyway

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