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[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

So how does taxing unrealized gains work. If I purchase stock X at a specific price. If the stock goes up and I now am holding 150% of my original value. Let's say it hovers there for 3 more years. After 3 years it tanks and is now worth only 50% of my original purchases. Are people suggesting that I pay taxes on the unrealized gain of 50%, even though I end up selling at loss and have realized negative value. Doesn't that mean I am being taxed on losing money? How does that make sense?

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's not. Unrealised gains is basically an item in your shelf that hasn't been sold, you can tell other people this item worth X now and you can get a loan with that item as a guarantee, but since you haven't sell it and turn it into money, you still have $0 and an item that worth X. These people failed basic economic.

[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"can" vs "do" are different things. The meme quote describes hypothetical use, not actual use, as being something that should be taxable.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What you mean by "hypothetical use" vs "actual use"? In your own comment you mention nothing about "hypothetical use" yet here you talk about one, OOP also failed to mention anything about hypothetical use and only talk exclusively about unrealised gain. If unrealised gain(stock, asset, etc) is used to trade for another item, then yes, it's already a realised gain, the tax should be levied on the item purchased or the asset sold, whichever makes sense. If the unrealised gain is used to secure a loan, then no, it shouldn't be taxed because it's only change hand on paper, and the loan came with interest, and you have to pay back that loan. Net worth is nothing but a dick measuring contest, taxing it makes no sense.

So no, unrealised gain shouldn't be taxed because it's unrealised, it's like taxing a grocery store's unsold item.

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