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[–] TruthSandwich@fedi.truth-sandwich.com -2 points 1 month ago (20 children)

@Maggoty

This is a lie.

Iran and its pawns refuse to call Israel "Israel", using "Zionist state" as a slur. It would be like the USSR saying America doesn't exist and only calling it the "capitalist state".

The Palestinian claim to the area is rooted in their own colonialism; learn some history.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (19 children)

They've been there for thousands of years. Nobody gives a shit what happened thousands of years ago.

And the "doesn't exist" thing makes no sense. Why would you shoot at something that doesn't exist? Of course they know Israel exists. They don't recognize it's legitimacy.

Finally, repeating something doesn't make it any more true. In fact repeating things that aren't true is a propaganda technique to stick it in people's heads.

[–] TruthSandwich@fedi.truth-sandwich.com -1 points 1 month ago (18 children)

@Maggoty

Yeah, and the Jews were there before that. Welcome to history, where the people owning a land can change.

Fact is, Israel was formed on top of land owned by the Ottoman Empire, not the Palestinians. Britain won it as spoils of war, just like the Palestinians did long ago. Then the Palestinians went to war and lost again. It's just not their land anymore.

If war is a legitimate way to gain land, then Israel legitimately exists and it legitimately owns Palestine.

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[–] TruthSandwich@fedi.truth-sandwich.com -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@Maggoty

Iran denies the legitimacy of Israel. They say it doesn't have any right to exist and their goal is to make it cease to exist, through genocide.

That is why, once again, refusing to call Israel "Israel" and instead calling it the "Zionist state" is a slur and a genocidal threat.

Repeatedly ignoring irrefutable facts is bullshit. Stop bullshitting.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good thing your statements are refutable.

[–] TruthSandwich@fedi.truth-sandwich.com -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@Maggoty

BS. If they were, you would have been able to.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would call the fact that it's literally the name of their ideology a pretty good refutation to your idea that it's some kind of slur.

[–] TruthSandwich@fedi.truth-sandwich.com -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@Maggoty

The problem with arguments based on pretending to be stupid is that people are likely to believe you're really that stupid and just write you off.

Go back to my example of "capitalist state" and you'll see that your stupid nonsense argument was pre-refuted.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

pre-refuted? lmao.

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