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We don't need any knew infrastructure, we just need to get cars out of the way

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[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 month ago (12 children)

The idea of needing specialized transport as an individual beyond just walking is a failure of society. Replacing cars with "not-cars" isn't really helping that aspect. You should be structuring society so that cars or "not-cars" have no need to exist for almost everyone.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Someone versed in urban ecosystems could chime in better, because there's gotta be proper terms for city to city transport, city to neighborhood, neighborhood to street, street to home.

Bikes or some kind of personal vehicle are still probably necessary to get you from city to home, because they can't put train stations next to every house (unless they figure out how to shoot us through tubes or something).

[–] LovesTha@floss.social 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@dessalines @PowerCrazy No, it really is feasible to have PT close enough to everyone's house. Some will choose a bike to cut 15m walking into 5m riding, but it isn't required.

Part of that is that every neighbourhood needs all types of housing. Okay, not every one needs high rise apartments. But medium rise next to the station above the restaurants and retail, surrounded by town houses, surrounded by units, surrounded by 1/3rd acre house blocks

It really isn't crazy

Utopia needs many changes

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Indeed, and currently there exist several cities that execute that ideal more-or-less. NYC is the obvious one, but Washington DC, Chicago, hell even the worst city in America, San Francisco does it adequately. The only reason we can't have that kind of public transit everywhere is because no one is forcing city officials to plan for the long-term, and reduce sprawl.

Zero Growth Lines are a great way to mandate density, without any other policies needed.

[–] LovesTha@floss.social 2 points 1 month ago

@PowerCrazy I think even those examples are more on the less side, they aren't continuing to grow that way. But they are good places to live because of how close to those ideals they still are.

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