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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

My previous comment was removed for being anti-Nazi or something, idk. I was never given an explanation. Weird and disappointing behaviour from a mod. It shouldn't be controversial to think Nazis are bad. But I guess this is the world we live in now.

But no, not "completely". Completely.

The quotes make it seem like moving a car factory is in fact tantamount to Nazism. Which it isn't. Only a fool would think that moving a car factory is tantamount to installing a brutal warmongering dictatorship that systematically murders religious and ethnic minorities, the disabled, etc.

You need to brush up on your history if you think the Nazis are bad because they moved factories about.

[–] federalreverse 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I deleted the comment because of the ~~ad-hominem~~ insult ("are you the biggest fuckwit?"). Please do look into the mod log before making such accusations.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Where can I see this? I'm looking about but can't find any mod log. Usually mods would inform commenters if they censor thsm, rather than do it silently.

Why were other comments removed, in that case? E.g. I don't see how "I don't think you know what Nazism means", in reply to a person who thinks moving a car factory is Nazi ideology is an example of rule breaking.

And apologies for the pedantry, but an ad hominem is when you dismiss someone's argument by attacking their character or their motivations. That's not what I did. I explained why their argument ('moving factories is Nazism') is absurd, then asked if they were a fuckwit. I didn't call them a fuckwit and leave it at that.

Rude? Yeah tbh it was, and I guess that's against a rule. But it's certainly not an ad hominem, and I kind of take issue with people seeking to minimise and whitewash Nazis, and tbh, I will be unapologetically rude to people who do that. I think Nazis are bad.

[–] federalreverse 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
  • Mod log for !Europe specifically: https://p.lemmy.world/modlog?community=761207
  • I removed some comments further down the thread because they were unproductive bickering. That affected comments both by you and sunzu02.
  • You're right about me misusing the term ad-hominem. Thanks. :)
  • If that's not obvious, please don't pose rhetorical questions asking people whether they're "fuckwits".
  • It seems neither side here is trying to whitewash Nazis.
  • There's one side who didn't appear to be listening to the other. I've temporarily banned sunzu02.
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Thank you for the link, I didn't know it existed.