this post was submitted on 04 Sep 2024
938 points (98.6% liked)
Technology
59099 readers
3213 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
It's two different things happening. One is redistribution, which isn't allowed and the other is fair use, which is allowed. You can't ban someone from writing a detailed synopsis of your book. That's all an llm is doing. It's no different than a human reading the material and then using that to write something similar.
The matter is not LLMs reproducing what they have learned, it is that they didn't pay for the books they read, like people are supposed to do legally.
This is not about free use, this is about free access, which at the scale of an individual reading books is marketed as "piracy"...at the scale of reading all books known to man...it's onmipiracy?
We need some kind of deal where commercial LLMs have to pay a rent to a fund that distributes that among creators or remain nonprofit, which is never gonnna happen, because it'll be a bummer for all the grifters rushing into that industry.
If I can read a book from a library, why shouldn't OpenAI or anybody else?
...but yes from what I've heard they (or whoever, don't remember) actually trained on libgen. OpenAI can be scummy without the general process of feeding AI books you only have read access to being scummy.
This is not like reading a book from a library...unless you want to force the LLM to only train one book per day and keep no copies after that day.
They don't keep copies and learning speed? Why one day? Does it count if I skim through a book?