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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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We regret to inform you that Ray Kurzweil is back on his bullshit (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

Can someone explain why this level of hate?

I mean dude wrote a book about exponential progress (it works well in computers IMO) and tried to predict a lot of stuff. I read that lots of his predictions was "sort of" correct too?

Edit: thanks for nothing I guess. Downvotes and scorn lol.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 19 points 4 months ago

It hasn't worked 'well' for computers since like the pentium, what are you talking about?

The premise was pretty dumb too, as in, if you notice that a (very reductive) technological metric has been rising sort of exponentially, you should probably assume something along the lines of we're probably still at the low hanging fruit stage of R&D, it'll stabilize as it matures, instead of proudly proclaiming that surely it'll approach infinity and break reality.

There's nothing smart or insightful about seeing a line in a graph trending upwards and assuming it's gonna keep doing that no matter what. Not to mention that type of decontextualized wishful thinking is emblematic of the TREACLES mindset mentioned in the community's blurb that you should check out.

So yeah, he thought up the Singularity which is little more than a metaphysical excuse to ignore regulations and negative externalities because with tech rupture around the corner any catastrophic mess we make getting there won't matter. See also: the whole current AI debacle.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

First, learn the difference between scorn or disdain and hate.

Second, read the comments in the thread already made about those "'sort of' correct" predictions.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 4 months ago

ah, you beat me to it

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 4 months ago

Yes Scorn is a nightmarish universe of odd forms and somber tapestry.

[–] self@awful.systems 15 points 4 months ago

ah yeah, 3 downvotes (and one of them’s mine) and zero replies of scorn directed towards you (well, one now)

how about you take your bullshit elsewhere

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 4 months ago

you could just have read downthread for actual details before posting, y'know. that waaaah edit isn't helping

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago

Re his book, a glance at wikipedia (helpfully linked to the relevant section, im not one of those LMGTFY link twats) might help.