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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

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[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If only there was any large active warzone that has largely devolved into positional warfare for two years now to disprove that claim, damn.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Damn, if only.

Drones mostly target humans and crewed vehicles, not other drones (and disable rapidly and suddenly un-crewed vehicles) (with rare exceptions of recon drones crashing other recon drones by breaking their propellers and like 1 or 2 cases of FPV drones shooting down fixed wing recon drones. anti-drone warfare is mostly EW, then AAA and things like MANPADS or even bigger missiles depending on how valuable that drone is as a target)

Besides, last time i've checked it was not drones that took or retook Vovchansk (80% ish Ukrainian controlled last week), it was tanks, arty, mechanized infantry, maybe a dash of CAS and loads of AA and jammers, you know, just like in every war since 80s or even bit earlier. Loads of small cheap PGMs do work great in anti-vehicle role, and drones are just that, so it makes everybody hide fair bit harder

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

if i have to guess, the thing that prevents mobility now is constant surveillance, also by drones + lots of artillery, and some attack drones too. the thing that will enable large scale movements will be air dominance and even more EW

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You also need an extremely well ran, integrated, well-trained, well-supplied army to run modern system warfare. Russia's army is hardly modernised, and I suspect they wouldn't be really willing to run a command model that gives a lot of authority to the lower ranks.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 months ago

yeah if you want to have so different pieces working together, you need training that makes exploitation of it all possible, goes without saying