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Is Europe Turning Fascist? (www.youtube.com)
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[–] federalreverse 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Many Europeans know first hand that the streets are less safe than they used to be and which groups are causing it.

For one thing, that's not what I was saying.

And then there's a lot of conflating "feeling safe" with "being safe" going on here, which has a lot to do with our innate xenophobia. People don't become criminals because of the color of their skin, their language, or their religion. Instead they become criminals because of social standing, lack of money, lack of education, gender, age, drug use. But of course, branding everyone who looks or speaks differently from you as bad/evil happens to be easy.

Yet in reality, it doesn't make much of a difference whether people are murdered by a nazi, someone apolitical born in $yourCountry, or a recent immigrant. But these people will likely share factors such as being less educated, belonging to a social group that is not accepted, being poor, male and under 30.

Then there’s a blatant misquote in there as well. Macron’s minister of the interior didn’t call LePen weak on migration but Islamism, as is visible on the quote he shows.

I did notice that one as well -- although I didn't look up whether there's additional context. This was not a direct quote though, it was from a newspaper that paraphrased.

Nonetheless, even so, it's telling considering the kind of anti-islam, police-heavy state France has morphed into in recent years.

Presenting the left popular front as some kind of success, is also reaching. It’s a desperate survival strategy.

That's pretty much what he said.

He then goes on to bash liberal democrats for the rise of fascism, stopping short of calling them fascists as well.

There's data to back up what he says -- austerity & accompanying economic vulnerability, destruction of community, strengthening social hierarchies all lead to authoritarian tendencies.

So overall this is just a doubling down on a failed strategy of the left.

Ftr: Don't agree. He's right in that what's failing us is the stream of center-right policy since the 80s.

Being uncritically ideologically pro immigration, regardless of facts, social, demographic, and political realities,

Tbh, I see a lot more people who uncritically ideologically against all immigration, regardless of facts.

while calling everyone fascist, hasn’t stopped us from ending up in the current situation.

Good one! In your own words, the guy from the video is

stopping short of calling them fascists as well.

And indeed, pretty much everyone else is too.