this post was submitted on 24 Aug 2024
116 points (92.0% liked)

Technology

58009 readers
3079 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 16 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Last year the California Energy Commission posted the results of a study aimed at assessing efficiency of deploying piezoelectric systems to generate clean electricity from roadways.

“Based on the laboratory evaluations and road tests, the application of the piezoelectric energy harvesting system in one lane of a one-mile-long roadway has the potential to generate 72,800 kilowatt-hours of energy per year,” the team reported.

How is that clean energy, in any sense of the word? Any system that gains some energy from a passing car must necessarily decrease the (kinetic) energy of the car by an equal or greater amount. And the vast majority of cars get their kinetic energy by burning fossil fuels. Sounds like a more expensive, less direct, and less efficient version of a gasoline generator.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

It depends. Is this energy the same energy that is already being burned?

Looking at an extremely simple example: Solar powered calculators (the real ones). They harness light from the light bulbs in a room which would be otherwise dark. The only time they are harnessing that power, is when the light is on. They add no extra draw to the light, they are 100% passive. The only time you’d really have to take into consideration how green that power is (explicitly for the calculator) is if you are turning on that light explicitly to power the calculator.

If the tech being talked about is just harnessing the “junk energy” of the vehicles in their normal operation, this would be 100% green energy. If it is adding a load, it is 100% dirty when powered by an ICE. If it’s somewhere in the middle… I hope you get my point.

You’re also ignoring the fact that not all vehicles are ICE.

[–] magiccupcake@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ehh it's still a rubbish idea, that money would be much better spent going after primary producers of energy, like solar, wind, geothermal, or nuclear.

Some napkin math and an equivalent area of solar, say over a road or parking lot would produce 3.5 million kwh in a year.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Those aren’t always a fit for everywhere. And getting energy from one place to another is an unsolved issue. Just because one option is cheaper than others doesn’t mean that particular option is the better choice. Diversity is very important.

[–] magiccupcake@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Diversity is important, but it's still better to go after larger sources of energy first. There's just not much energy to be recovered from falling rain or waste from cars.

Make the cars waste less energy, or the transit system in general is much easier and will actually save money long term.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (9 replies)