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Mozilla Has Been Suspiciously Silent About Google And Manifest V3 (fosspost.org)
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[–] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (12 children)

... because Mozilla already clarified their position on this last year.

TL;DR

No, Mozilla is NOT ditching manifest v2.

Well what’s happening with MV2 you ask? Great question – in case you missed it, Google announced late last year their plans to resume their MV2 deprecation schedule. Firefox, however, has no plans to deprecate MV2 and will continue to support MV2 extensions for the foreseeable future. And even if we re-evaluate this decision at some point down the road, we anticipate providing a notice of at least 12 months for developers to adjust accordingly and not feel rushed.

Source: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2024/03/13/manifest-v3-manifest-v2-march-2024-update/

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Did you read the article? Your link supports the point it was making: Mozilla doesn't mention ad blocking anywhere. It's immediately brought up in the comments, but Mozilla itself doesn't want to broach the topic.

Years ago, Mozilla would explicitly call ad blocking a privacy feature, and proclaim it explicitly.

Now they don't.

[–] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

~~but Mozilla itself doesn’t want to broach the topic.~~

Again, a reminder that Mozilla plans to continue support for the Manifest Version 2 blocking WebRequest API (this API powers, for example, uBlock Origin) while simultaneously supporting Manifest Version 3.

Source: https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/12/02/webextensions-mv3-webmidi-opensearch-pip-updates-and-more-these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-128/

~~Years ago, Mozilla would explicitly call ad blocking a privacy feature, and proclaim it explicitly.~~

Ahem! https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/features/ > https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/features/adblocker/

Cooking up conspiracy theory instead of research is easy, is not it?

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Source: 2022

Hey look, years ago.

And your other page was 2018.

[–] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Source: 2022

Incorrect, that's actually from 2022 B.C.

And your other page was 2018

Correct, the snap of article from 2018 looks exactly identical to 2024 instance with ZERO modifications. Mozilla finally gave us on Privacy it seems, as no one bothered to update that page since 2018.

Wait a sec, they also haven't updated this article as well since 2020. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browsers/compare/chrome/

/s

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You keep posting things that agree with me. I don't think you understand that.

The only way to find a contradiction is to find new articles that trumpet their ad blocking capabilities, not old ones from years ago.

Do you understand, years ago?

[–] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, like publishing a new article every day just to prove their commitment to end-users' privacy.

Incremental updates to articles, hosted literally on home page, with details of newer privacy features is so old school.

Got it. Thanks for the clarification.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Also not what I said.

Mozilla started selling private data to advertising companies in 2023.

Mozilla became an advertising company in June, 2024.

Isn't it curious that they've suddenly become much less outspoken about ad blocking after 2022?

[–] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Also not what I said.

Source: 2022 Hey look, years ago. And your other page was 2018.

Mozilla started selling private data to advertising companies in 2023

(Assuming this is about Pocket) Is it too much to expect from you to know the difference between aggregated non-PII data vs PII data?

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's about their FakeSpot subsidiary.

[–] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It’s about their FakeSpot subsidiary.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/review-checker-review-quality#w_protect-your-privacy

Protect your privacy Firefox is committed to empowering you with information about review reliability while respecting your privacy. We use Oblivious HTTP (OHTTP) for Review Checker. When Review Checker is turned on, we use information about the products you visit on Amazon, Best Buy and Walmart to analyze the reviews, but by using OHTTP we ensure Mozilla cannot link you or your device to the products you have viewed. OHTTP uses encryption and a third party intermediary server to offer a technical guarantee that this is the case: all Mozilla learns from this network request is that someone, somewhere, looked at a given product.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

I wasn't thinking about that one, although it is hilarious Mozilla thinks it can claim it isn't scraping private data by using a business collaborator as an intermediary.

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