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(i’m also gonna ambush my friends about Signal on sunday and coerce them to download it to get rid of the green bubbles)

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[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

Onion-like routing. It takes multiple hops to get to a destination. Each hop can only decrypt the next destination to send the packet to (i.e. peeling off a layer of the onion).

[–] MaggiWuerze -1 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Would that keep lawyers from just taking the last ip they get for their frivolous law suits? That way I could get a letter for something I actually didn't download

[–] undefined@links.hackliberty.org 3 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

It’s next to impossible to do this. I think if you read up on the topic you’ll have a better understanding; I’d like to explain more but it’s difficult to do so without knowing your level of expertise, etc.

The TL;DR is that nodes on i2p have no clue which nodes line up with which IP addresses. It’s true that from outside the overly you can see it’s i2p traffic, but you’d need to defeat so many layers of encryption that it’s close to impossible.

[–] MaggiWuerze 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You will still always know where the packet last came from, otherwise it could not be routed to you. As I live in germany I have to deal with the threat of lawyers sending letters when they 'caught you' torrenting. So if anyone uses this in germany without a vpn and happens to be the last one in the chain they will use it just like they use their current system to claim you pirated stuff because you were uploading stuff through torrents.

[–] Iapar 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If they can't follow the chain how do they know that you got something illegal? As I understand it the ISP would just see that you got an encrypted Paket from some random IP. Am I mistaking?

[–] undefined@links.hackliberty.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I live in lawsuit happy USA and pirating through i2p has never landed me letters in the mail. They don’t even know what it is you’re looking at let alone where it truly came from.

Again, I really recommend reading about the subject instead of trusting some idiot (me) on the internet.

[–] MaggiWuerze -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In germany it's enough for them to know you participated in the process to send you a letter

[–] Iapar 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That may be but my point is that they can't see that you are part of the process.

[–] MaggiWuerze 0 points 2 weeks ago

Of course they can. If they set up a honeypot and your ip is caught seeding, even if it is only as an exit point to i2p, they have you connected to the distribution of that torrent. I'm not saying they will win before a court, but they will send you a letter and a lot of people don't challenge those

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