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There is a fundamental truth you have to understand about car companies:They do not exist to make cars. They exist to make money. That distinction, analyst Kevin Tynan tells me, is why they’re not really interested in making affordable electric vehicles.

Perhaps that’s an oversimplification. Tynan is the director of research at an auto-dealer-focused investment bank, the Presidio Group, with decades of experience as an analyst at firms like Bloomberg Intelligence. What he means isn’t that automakers have no interest in affordable products. It’s that their interest begins and ends with winning customers who will eventually buy more expensive, higher-margin products.

One of the auto industry’s dirtiest secrets is that at scale, it doesn’t cost that much more to make a bigger, more expensive than a smaller and cheaper one. But they can charge you a lot more for the former, which makes this a game of profit margins and not just profits. In recent years especially, that’s a big part of why your new car choices have skewed so heavily toward bigger crossovers, SUVs and trucks.

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[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 3 weeks ago (26 children)

You don't need a 100kWh pack. Most of the smaller cars are closer to 60.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

I certainly don't and wouldn't consider it. But if someone wants 1000 miles of range, we probably aren't getting that without some major technological breakthroughs in material sciences any time soon without packs around 100kWh.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

We don't need 1000 miles of range...all we need is more charging stations.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What people need and what people irrationally want can be two different things

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

For the purposes of this conversation, only 1 of those matter. The point is EVs are not inherently heavier than ICE vehicles. They're only heavier if you insist on unnecessarily large vehicles with unnecessarily long range. That's why a Chevy Bolt weighs 3600 lb and a Hummer EV weighs a patently insane 9k lbs.

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