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I’m on vacation in Türkiya and wonder: what happens when let’s say a pregnant woman goes on vacation and for whatever reason gives birth there.

How can she take the newborn back to her country? Need to prepare all the papers in the embassy or there’s some special procedure for such cases so the paper work can be done in a country she resides normally?

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[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 49 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

My government has an information page specifically about what you should do when this happens. Basically: register the birth locally (which gets you the local papers), register at home as soon as possible, and you may want to convert the birth certificate for ease of paperwork. There's another page where you can look up the specifics for each country, but most of them (including Turkey) don't have any specifics.

This registering abroad can cause issues when giving birth in countries like the USA, where being born within the border makes you a citizen, and therefore liable to pay tax even if you have a dual nationality and live abroad. This is especially weird because the Netherlands does not normally permit dual citizenship. Sounds like a fun bit of paperwork!

Your best bet, for any country, will probably be "contact the embassy and ask what you need to do". Or maybe "don't travel across the border when you're about to give birth"; I can't imagine a nine month pregnant woman will have a great time on vacation anyway.

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

This is especially weird because the Netherlands does not normally permit dual citizenship.

It seems like many (most?) countries don't like/recognize dual citizenship. The way it ends up working is that each country doesn't have the power to tell the other country that someone isn't a citizen. Each country just enforces it's own citizenship within it's borders. If you had US/Netherlands citizenship, and use a Dutch passport to try to enter the US, you will probably get yelled at by customs if they realize that you are a US citizen. They can't stop you from entering the US but they can hold you for a while and pester you.

If you have a US citizenship but live in another country, most of your income will be exempt from US taxes (unless you are a millionaire, in which case you probably aren't paying many taxes anyway).

A similar thing happens with countries that have mandatory military or civil service; you can be required to travel back to serve.

[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The US actually requires that you pay taxes to the US based on your income in the foreign country unless they approve of you being exempt.

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

The first $120k is exempt, though, so unless you are bringing almost $1/4 million a year, the majority is not taxed.

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-earned-income-exclusion

There's also tax treaties that can make things more convoluted.

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