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Videos games aren't supposed to be realistic. I'm not supposed to put myself in the position of a real socom or seal or delta or recons or X18 for that matter. I don't want to.play a video game that represents reality. That's not what video games are about. Video games are supposed to be void of reality. Destiny, baldurs gate, elder scrolls, Mario, metal gear, etc... That's what video gaming is supposed to be. Not real situations that could/would occur like call of duty. CoD is a garbage game and it's offensive for them to remaster the bullshit and then expect people to pay for the bullshit that they couldn't justify having paid for when the game(s] was first released. Do not fall for the Microsoft trap

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[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Got to upvote this opinion, because it's unpopular and wrong.

I had a very long explanation ready but I didn't feel like bothering people to read all this, so in short:

Look up what suspension of disbelief is. Try to show empathy towards people who can immerse themselves into a game because it looks as realistic as possible. Accept that games are as diverse as other forms of art and understand that you are just showing preferences, that doesn't mean the other form is wrong. Don't pick something like CoD as a measure for anything other than pure greed.

Large game publisher are not your friends, they only want your money. The realism approach isn't wrong, it's the consumers who buy the shit games. The graphics of the game don't matter, it's what companies can get away with and so they'll repeat it.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee -2 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Why do people who can immerse need empathy? I know exactly what you're saying and I get that you're essentially saying "let people like what they want to like" and I'm not stopping anyone from doing that. But this is just my opinion. My opinion doesn't change anyone's life, and isn't that the point?

[–] vaquedoso@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

To answer your first question first, empathy is a social skill and if you truly want to understand other people's opinions, it's a skill you must hone. No one is saying you must be empathic, but if you want to truly get why some people like it more when they can immerse themselves in a piece of art, then you do need to be able to try to walk in their shoes.
Regarding your second point, you framed the original post as a fact of life and not an opinion ('games are not supposed to be realistic' vs 'i think games shouldn't be realistic') so don't be surprised when people argue against your opinion as if it were fact.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But the community I posted it in is unpopular OPINION

[–] vaquedoso@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah, which invites people to discuss and to offer counter-arguments. So why are you on the defensive about it? When you open up a topic for discussion and people have a different opinion than you, usually instead of resorting to 'is my opinion, deal with it', people often offer a footing for their argument to stand on.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You accused me of claiming something as a fact of life. I'm defensive because it seems you misunderstood my intentions and have criticized me upon that misunderstanding. You aren't expressing a counter argument, you're expressing an accusation

[–] vaquedoso@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I expressed my counter argument in my first comment. You then replied with a non-answer, trying to justify your lack of argument with the community name.
And let me be clear, I'm not criticizing you, I'm criticizing your debating. You started the original post making an assumption and stating it as fact while failing to provide a compelling argument to back it up, so when people inevitably try to discuss it, you did hide behind the curtain of 'it's my opinion, I'm not harming anyone'. Which makes it the more ironic when you brought to attention the community name in response to me calling you out.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You claimed I regarded my post as a fact. That is not true. Observing the community I posted it in, proves otherwise and you have built an argument under the assumption that I believe it's a fact. It's not my problem that you wonder into a community with "opinion" in the name and think people who post here believe life should change for what they say. You take yourself way too serious

[–] vaquedoso@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You keep referencing the community as if I wasn't aware. I made a comment yesterday here in this very thread referencing it, so I clearly know this is a place for unpopular opinions, that's why I'm debating in good faith and that's why I said in my previous comment it was ironic.
But no, please re-read what I said, that you started the post with an assumption, and you presented it as fact. That's not debatable, you stated that games aren't supposed to be realistic. You didn't back that up with an argument, you just repeated how you think games should be perceived and then proceeded to trash a popular franchise as an example.
Like I said, I mean no animosity towards you. But I chimed in literally because this community invites to debate

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee -3 points 3 weeks ago

Bro. I'm just going to give you about 15 minutes to read this, then I'm going to block you. You have constantly ignored the fact that you're not treating it as an opinion, and treating it like you believe what I say is an absolute. Leave this community because you think what you have to say is special to people trying to share their opinions. You're not debating, you're accusing, and you seem to not understand the difference, and I have zero interest to explain the difference to you any further. My advice would be to avoid this community in the future because you seem to not know the difference between opinion and rule

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