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[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago (23 children)

As someone who's never read/watched the Hobbit & LOTR universes I frankly have no clue wtf this is supposed to mean

But godspeed to you, little rat

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 62 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

It's an almost perfectly accurate analogy.

So, JRR Tolkien wrote The Hobbit for his school age children. It's a novel that is designed to be read to children one chapter a night as a series of bedtime stories. It tells the tale of Bilbo Baggins, a hobbit enjoying his quiet life in the suburbs, being swept along on a quest along with some dwarves and a wizard to slay a dragon that stole some treasure. Along the way a series of adventures ensue, one of which involves Bilbo finding a handy magic ring that turns anyone who wears it invisible.

Several years later, Tolkien decided to write an epic trilogy of novels that tell a much more mature story in the same setting. See it turns out that the fun invisibility ring Bilbo found is an all powerful evil artifact hand crafted by the setting's equivalent of Lucifer as part of a jewelry-based ploy to take over the world in the name of evil, and the only place the ring can be destroyed is in the fires of the volcano in which it was forged in the first place. It falls on Bilbo's nephew Frodo Baggins to carry the ring from the suburbs to this volcano to destroy the ring and defeat evil once and for all.

Tolkien made it sound cooler than I just did.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

jewelry-based ploy to take over the world in the name of evil

That might be the single greatest description of LOTR I've ever seen lmao.

Also don't forget, if it wasn't for some old wizard who had an affinity for getting high with little people, no one would've saved the world.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's the biggest tell that The Hobbit wasn't designed to have the sequels it did. If Tolkien had had The Lord of the Rings in mind when he wrote The Hobbit, Gandalf would have recognized the One Ring when he saw it.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Not necessarily. There were several lower rings out there in the world. The One Ring had been lost since thousands of years. I don't remember what Saruman tells the wizards about it exactly, but essentially, it is probably lost for ages, and Gandalf trusted his wisdom at the time.

When Gandalf meets Frodo at the start of LOTR, he tells him he was getting increasingly suspicious about this ring, and started doing researchs on it, until there was no doubt anymore that this was the One Ring. Tossing it into the fire is only an ultimate confirmation.

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