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AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
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It's weird how secretive they're being about the location. The website doesn't say where it is, just that it's an hour away (by boat? by plane?) from Singapore. There's no actual photos, just AI mockups or whatever. You need to apply to find out the location apparently. No word on if they have actual buildings or tents or shacks or what.
Imagine if you wanted to go to a non-culty school and they were like "yeah, we'll tell you what country our campus is in... once you apply!"
This reminds me of a story by somebody I knew who once was a libertarian once told me. He was into heavy metal, as a lot of people I know/knew are, and a libertarian so he was curious about NSBM, so he applied to go to one of those concerts and eventually he got a meeting point where they all gathered, and then they were bussed to the actual location of the concert (which was secret so kafka (our antifascist research group) couldn't identify the location and do something about the fascists. Not many people I know really talk to this guy anymore (he has some 'interesting' opinions on borders now).
Anyway, mostly unrelated to the culty school, I was just reminded of this story of fascists doing reasonably good opsec. (And the failure of me and the metal community at large to not do something about this, can't recall anybody (me included) to react to this enormous red flag in hindsight).
What or who are NSBM? National Socialist Black Metal?
Yes, sorry, I forgot that this isn't that common term.
Also note that there is quite a lot of edge and badness in the metal scene, and a lot of this wasn't shunned/no-platformed nor criticized as hard as it should be (metal is not punk), so these bands must have been quite extreme for them to go to these kinds of measures.
Metal and industrial both have a Nazi problem and you have to get unfortunately good at sign spotting.
Neo-folk is even worse. But all comes with the territory I guess, loads of negative attention from people who don't understand the genre makes it easy to dismiss any criticism from outsiders, which the far right/abusive people love to use as plausible deniability.
Yeah but like national socialist power metal isn't a thing in the way nsbm is.
I wonder if it's primarily occultism's nazi problem metastasizing, foundational dorks like Vikernes notwithstanding.