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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 136 points 3 weeks ago (26 children)

Oh so baity!

You can remove "western democracy" there I guess.

Also nah, I can speak out against my boss, my eventual landlord and protest in the streets, because I live in France, a western democracy.

YMMW.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

And yet most of the political forces in France are advocating to remove all these rights. Sindicalists are arrested under terrorist laws, as are eco-activists. And maires trying to enforce price ceiling for lawns in cities are considered like Staline.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Sure and that is bad.

What does it have to do with the discussion though? Or is it "west bad" whatever happens?

[–] bouh@lemmy.world -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So as long as the litteral nazis are not in charge genociding people it's fine and there's nothing to worry about? Syndicalistes and ecoactivists being arrested for terrorism is fine already?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I mean if the above things are what defines the west then yeah. But I don't think they do, or at least they don't have to - I believe we stand for better things than that - for liberty, for democracy and welfare of all and I believe in progress, not complacency and decay thinly veiled by whataboutism.

EDIT: The user above clearly manipulated vote counts. All his comments get an extra 8-12 upvotes, everything that disagrees with him has an extra 8-12 downvotes. Blocked and reported.

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