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Probably better to post in the github issue rather than replying here.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4967

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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 21 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Please be aware that votes are effectively already public, just not shown in the Lemmy UI.

[–] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

I was unaware of that. I thought it was only accessible to instance admins, and I think that's how it should be.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 22 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

In Lemmy, only admins and mods can see votes. But most other ActivityPub implementations show votes freely and there's nothing in the protocol that makes votes private. Votes are inherently public - they are only hidden behind a curtain that is very easy to get around in Lemmy.

[–] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I forgot other fediverse platforms interact with this place. So upvotes translate to likes on mastodon and other platforms? I still feel like this should be anonymized, but I also get how that could be exploited since likes aren't auditable in that case.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 10 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, upvotes are in fact just a Like object in ActivityPub and downvotes is a Dislike object. This translates to various other concepts in other ActvityPub apps, depending on what they choose to call it or how they handle them.

I still feel like this should be anonymized

There is no mechanism for doing this in ActivityPub at the moment. Also, you may not want that because it would then also be hidden from admins and mods, who would then be powerless to discover vote manipulation or downvote brigading and other nasty behavior. Having the votes be transparent is probably better as it allows people to discover this kind of behavior much more easily.

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