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I've been researching for the past week Threadiverse projects (Lemmy at first, then PieFed and now Mbin) with the goal of testing out their interoperability with the rest of the Fediverse.

Apologies in advance if this is the third post you see from me - this one is my first in Mbin.

I wonder if you have any insights regarding the differences between the 3 - advantages/disadvantages and opinions on your favorite project?

I'm also interested to see if Mbin manages to federate mentions (unlike Lemmy and PieFed who falls short). So for the purposes of this test, I'm mentioning:

  • my Mastodon account @_elena@mastodon.social
  • my Friendica account @elena@opensocial.space
  • and my Lemmy account @elena@lemmy.world to see if anything happens

Thanks and happy to be here!

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[–] ciferecaNinjo@fedia.io 0 points 3 weeks ago (28 children)

tl;dr:

  • Lemmy ← shit show for years
  • (mk)bin ← shit show but understandable given its age
  • piefed ← never heard of it

I’ve been using Lemmy for years, back when there were only 2 or 3 nodes and federation capability did not exist. It’s a shit show. Extremely buggy web clients and no useful proper desktop clients. I must say it’s sensible that the version numbers are still 0.x. It’s also getting worse. 0.19.3 was more usable than 0.19.5 which introduced serious bugs that make it unusable in some variants of Chromium browser.

mBin has been plagued with serious bugs. But it’s also very young. It was not ready for prime-time when it got rolled out, but I think it (or kbin) was pushed out early because many Redditors were jumping ship and those refugees needed a place to go. IMO mbin will out-pace Lemmy and take the lead. Mbin is bad at searching. You can search for mags that are already federated but if a community does not appear in a search I’m not even sure if or how a user can create the federated relationship.

The running goat fuck with Lemmy is in recent years with the shitty javascript web client. There’s only so much blame you can fairly put on those devs though because they need to focus on a working server. The shitty JavaScript web client should just be considered a proof-of-concept experimental test sandbox. JavaScript is unfit for this kind of purpose. It’s really on the FOSS community to produce a decent proper client. And what has happened is there has been focus on a dozen or so different phone apps (wtf?) and no real effort on a desktop app.

Cloudflare filters lacking


Both Lemmy and Mbin lack the ability to filter out or block Cloudflare nodes. They both only give a way to block specific forums. So you get imersed/swamped in LemmyWorld’s walled garden and to get LemmyWorld out of sight there is a big manual effort of blocking hundreds of communities. It’s a never ending game of whack-a-mole.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (14 children)

There's ~~Proton~~ Photon, an actively maintained desktop ui alternative for Lemmy.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 17 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I feel like there's too many things named Proton right now.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] kionite231@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They carry negative charge :(

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] kionite231@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh I remember it's Electron which carries negative charge. Neutron is well neutral :D

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 3 weeks ago

🤓 Sci-tastic!

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