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[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Metaphysical is a fun woo woo word, because one definition of it is basically as you have said, a synonym for supernatural (ie, physically impossible), whereas the other definition of it relates to metaphysics, the philosophical approaches to understand the rules that govern or give rise to the rules/laws of physics.

So you have one contextual usage that means 'weird unexplained spooky impossible nonsense', and another that means, 'logical structures that seek to explain the nature of reality as understood empirically, often by academics.'

Thus its a perfect word for mystical woo people who love to conflate different contextual meanings of words and pretend they are not doing that.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Metaphysical is a fun woo woo word

It’s also a bedrock concept in philosophy. How-we-know-what-we-know, etc.

I mean, it can be two things, but c’mon.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

... You are not understanding me. It seems you stopped reading at the part you quoted and disregarded the rest of what I wrote. Let me expand:

In one context, in one kind of usage, 'metaphysical' is an adjective referring to a very technical outline or system of logical reasoning.

In another context, in another kind of usage, it is a vague catch all term for fantastic things that seem to defy logic and reason.

Because these two valid but nearly opposite meanings of the word can be switched out, or conflated, woo woo peddlers love to use this term, as it easily convinces those who do not understand that is what they are doing, and sounds grand, wise or profound.

Its the same with 'energy' and 'frequency'. Both of these terms have valid definitions that are highly specific and empirical in a scientific context, but also have commonly used, colloquial meanings which basically indicate a vague notion of pleasantness or unpleasantness, or maybe enlightened vs unenlightened.

Woo woo peddlers also love to use these words and conflate their two different meanings.

Most people think that the phrase 'good/bad vibes' means that you feel good or bad about a person or situation's attributes, qualities or what not.

But a person who has been listening to too much woo woo peddlers will believe that there is some kind of actual, literally real, energy or frequency surrounding or exuding from a person or situation they find pleasant or unpleasant, because they are so used to the empirical/scientific concept being totally equated to the whimsical concept that they do not understand that there even are two distinct meanings.

The point I am making is not that metaphysical is a woo woo word that means nothing.

The point I am making is that there are many terms with nearly contradictory meanings, where one is associated with objective, ordered, rational, logical, complex concepts that can be studied and meaningfully argued over, and another meaning that is fantastical, defies empiricism or logic, and is highly subjective.

These terms are woo woo terms not because they mean nothing, but because they are often used by woo woo peddlers who jump back and forth between these different meanings to confuse people.

Quantum is another one. So is 'AI', at this point.

[–] Amanduh@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I really enjoyed your comments.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago
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