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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

tldr: the movie said nothing original, and echoed nothing meaningfully.

Joaqin Phoenix is a great actor; this movie is terrible.

It was so plodding and goofy, and the "message", as far as there was one, was "look at me, nobody likes me because of my absurdly offensive vague"mental illness", girls don't like me because i don't bathe or practice hygiene, which isnt fair, so I'm going to shoot someone".

the world isn't bad, he's living in the world badly, and it's so lazy of the movie to blame it on a ludicrously contrived stereotype of a "crazy person".

for 2 hours.

20 minutes? could have been interesting.

2 hours? move it along.

The cloying sympathy for murderous self-pitying incels bothers me, but the terrible writing and limping pace of the movie sure kicked the film while it was down.

And then "oh but maybe literally everything was in his head so we just made you watch this dumb, slow, meaningless story glorifying murder and narcissism and also fuck you, why dont you tell me what it means i dont know."

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Maybe that's what I loved about the movie. There wasn't really a message. It's a tragedy that just Is. Like a child presenting to you a dead cat. It invokes emotion but doesn't say anything. I am shocked if did so well. It's not for everyone. But it's execution is brilliant and it has its place. I look forward to the sequel.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

those five seconds when he looks at deniro and shoots him were good.

but the moment is rendered meaningless and becomes insignificant in the context of why he shot him and the gobs of boredom surrounding that momentary glimpse of excitement.

what do you mean its execution is brilliant? which part?

i an curious what people liked here, because i saw:

the character has no development, is loosely based on offensive, inaccurate "idk crazy i guess", you're told twice that the movie is probably bullshit anyway and to ignore what you're watching.

i don't see why a child holding a dead cat would evoke emotion.

it's a dead cat.

Wash your hands.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i don't see why a child holding a dead cat would evoke emotion.

That speaks volumes.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

poetically rendering you speechless.

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