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After using LineageOS for long time, I have finally moved to GrapheneOS. I use a lot of banking and financial apps which I never felt comfortable using on LineageOS due to lack of proper sandboxing, unlocked bootloader etc.

GrapheneOS works flawlessly just like Android. You don't even notice there's hardening underneath. Also it protects from Google's evil location tracking using WiFi/Bluetooth or even when the Location is turned off. I don't understand how people in general are comfortable with Google tracking all the time. You can use Google Play and Play Services in a sandbox that works just like regular installation, but without deep tracking.

If you haven't tried GrapheneOS, try it. You won't go back to regular Android.

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[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

What are you contemplating switching from? Does your current OS meet those criteria?

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

I am currently using a rooted LOS with MicroG. It certainly is not as secure as GrapheneOS in terms of app sandboxing, encryption, regular security updates, etc., but I have control of the system, in case I need it, for instance ACC, F-droid privilege extension (F-Droid auto updates), ReVanced Manager (not using it currently) etc.

I trust GrapheneOS much more than Apple, but both go into a similar direction with their understanding of security. IMO taking control away from the user might be a good option, if you are dealing with just regular consumers, but I don't really like the "one-size-fits-all" approach of it. And it is my device, I should be allowed to decide what I want to do with it.

BTW, this is just a personal annoyance of mine. The GrapheneOS devs do a very good job.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I didn’t realize GrapheneOS limited control like that. Thanks for sharing!

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Like others already said, you can still root your GrapheneOS, there are two ways to do this:

  1. Just unlock your bootloader, flash Magisk or whatever, done. Disadvantages, you cannot lock your bootloader again, thus creating a huge security gap where an attacker, when gained physical access to your phone, overwrites your boot partition and you boot your compromised system without noticing. Which is bad, IMO.

  2. Recompile GrapheneOS with Magisk installed, signed it with that key and use this key in your bootloader to lock it. You essentially created a GrapheneOS fork, can no longer use their OTA update server and use the security updates, etc. You need to create this yourself.

Yeah, they don't prevent you from doing it, the same as original ROMs don't prevent you from doing it.

[–] Hominine@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

As someone that moved to Linux and has become accustom to full control of my system, I finally feel seen when it comes to GrapheneOS. Here's to a native root solution down the road, your take a la sandboxing sounds nifty.

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