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Switched to GrapheneOS today (grapheneos.org)

submitted 3 months ago by PullPantsUnsworn@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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After using LineageOS for long time, I have finally moved to GrapheneOS. I use a lot of banking and financial apps which I never felt comfortable using on LineageOS due to lack of proper sandboxing, unlocked bootloader etc.

GrapheneOS works flawlessly just like Android. You don't even notice there's hardening underneath. Also it protects from Google's evil location tracking using WiFi/Bluetooth or even when the Location is turned off. I don't understand how people in general are comfortable with Google tracking all the time. You can use Google Play and Play Services in a sandbox that works just like regular installation, but without deep tracking.

If you haven't tried GrapheneOS, try it. You won't go back to regular Android.

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[–] swamptin@freeradical.zone 2 points 3 months ago (9 children)

@PullPantsUnsworn
I'm honestly only afraid of bricking my primary phone. That's the only reason I'm still on stock android. It's the inconvenience of having to buy my way out of a brick.

[–] PullPantsUnsworn@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

GrapheneOS is the easy to install OS among any mobile platform. Everything is through a web UI, so you are very unlikely to brick your phone. You don't need to type a single command. Also even if you brick a Pixel phone, it's very easy to install stock Android build through Google with a similar installation process.

[–] swamptin@freeradical.zone 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

@PullPantsUnsworn
Ah but I'm running a Fairphone 4, so I'm not sure how a restore would work. Although I know I won't void the warranty by changing the OS. Maybe I'll see what their policy is on repairing a buggered attempt at the OS change. They provide /e/os from the shop like.

[–] TheBenCommandments@infosec.pub 2 points 3 months ago

Ah well then you can't have GrapheneOS anyway

[–] futureidentity@freeradical.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

@swamptin @PullPantsUnsworn I've been using /e/os for a few months and like it. Good integration with Nextcloud.

[–] swamptin@freeradical.zone 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

@futureidentity
That's cool! Any experience with banking apps? I expect to have to sandbox at least one, but Revolut might even have a native build?

Edit: Forums indicate Revolut hasn't worked naively since 2021
@PullPantsUnsworn

[–] futureidentity@freeradical.zone 1 points 2 months ago

@swamptin @PullPantsUnsworn Sorry... I don't use my phone for banking :^(

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

iodéOS is available on the Fairphone 4 and also has a very easy installation process. You just plug your phone in via USB, download the installer and follow the on-screen instructions.

[–] swamptin@freeradical.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

@Ilandar
How is it for sandboxing banking apps? That's my biggest worry about switching phone OS is losing access to my banking apps. I get I can use the browser, but sure we all know mobile browsing is made purposefully shit to drive up app installs anyway.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago

I can't definitively say, as that depends on your financial institution. There is a community list here with apps that have been confirmed as compatible or incompatible. You could also try searching the Plexus app, which is a larger community app compatibility project. My credit union's app has worked on every deGoogled ROM I've used, including iodéOS, and I've never experienced the problems others mention.

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