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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

As far as I'm concerned, both the far left and the far right have completely insane dealbreaker things I never want to see happen (again).

I’m so curious what dealbreaker things the far left has.

But overall, you misunderstood my point. It was that centralist could mean being okay with genocide as in they literally want to meet halfway between fascism and reasonability.

Like if one side said let’s not do slavery, and one side says let’s do slavery, a centralist compromised means being okay with some slavery.

My comment was more about:

Halfway between justice and injustice is still injustice.

[–] Moghul@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You see it as fascism (the far right) and reasonability (the far left). I don't really have anything to say to that other than, that is not reasonable. I come from a formerly communist country. I won't entertain that bullshit.

Edit:

Like if one side said let’s not do slavery, and one side says let’s do slavery, a centralist compromised means being okay with some slavery.

This is completely batshit crazy, what the fuck. I'm a few more drinks in right now and don't have the same filter, but "not slavery" is not what the far left is.

Edit 2: Yeah I probably could've phrased it better or just not answered. Sorry about that, shouldn't have called you batshit crazy. If I were to phrase it better, I don't believe that is a reasonable depiction of what the spectrum looks like. The far left isn't a rainbow land of inclusion, acceptance, and happiness. I don't really care to debate with communists the failings of communism, I'm not going to change my opinion on my experience and they won't change their world view because of some random comment on lemmy.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

formerly communist country

Far left doesn’t automatically = communism.

There are many flavours of socialism, including social democracies which I would call far left even though it has aspects of capitalism (it’s the end result that matters imo. If it’s more equality, that’s far left).

Which goes back to my original point, it’s really important for people to spell out what they actually mean when they use words or phrases that have been twisted by the other side.

Sorry if you’re fuming. Didn’t really mean to offend.

[–] Moghul@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for waiving that little snafu, I appreciate it, sincerely.

As far as I'm concerned, social democracy is center left. Maybe there's a difference between European and NA perspectives. I live in a social democratic country and I have to say life is pretty good.

This is what I mean by that depiction of the spectrum not being reasonable. I don't see how someone can say that on equal distance from the center you have social democracy and genocide.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As far as I'm concerned, social democracy is center left. Maybe there's a difference between European and NA perspectives. I live in a social democratic country and I have to say life is pretty good.

Well, the post is about leftists wanting to give health insurance to people. That sounds very North American (or more specifically, USA) kind of focus. So that’s the context I went off of.

Isn’t it funny though that your satisfied with living in a social democracy and I’m advocating for it yet we had a polarizing discussion cause we focused on labels?

Also, for context, I’m Canadian and would consider the liberals centre left and NDP (what I vote for) as far left.