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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 43 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (9 children)

Now do Apple.

At least you can have a third party app store on Android. Samsung, Amazon, and Xiaomi have their own app stores on Android devices. And there's F-Droid, too. But that's flat out impossible on iOS still, right?

Apple has a larger share of the US smartphone market (55-some-odd percent vs. Androids's 44) so not only do more people have Apple devices and are thus likely to be impacted by Apple's stranglehold on their platform, but you literally cannot put any app on that platform without Apple's approval and kowtowing to their policies for the same, in addition to them taking a mandatory cut. (Yes, I am aware of jailbroken devices which is a tiny statistically insignificant fractional corner of the iPhone user base). Apple has already provably stifled competition in the iPhone app space by, e.g., prohibiting any web browser that does not internally use the Safari rendering engine and previously banning emulators because they might allow "external code" to run on the device.

This case isn't a "win" for anybody except one megacorporation over another. The crux of the issue originally was that Epic thought both Google and Apple were taking too big of a cut of their revenue, and didn't want either tampering with their in-app microtransactions. Both Google and Apple retaliated by delisting Fortnite for having untaxed microtransactions in it, and then Epic sued both of them.

The decisions in the Epic vs. Google and Epic vs. Apple cases are basically opposites of each other, which makes zero sense when anyone could (and still can) sideload Fortnite onto an Android device if they wanted to and not deal with Google, but this is still not possible on an iPhone.

[–] nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Google was giving preferential treatment to certain companies and had a bunch of backroom deals going on and generally very anticompetitive behavior.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk -1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Right but is that actually illegal given the fact that you can sideload apps it's not like they're locking people out of their devices.

I don't like it but I'm not sure it necessarily meets the criteria for illegality.

This makes this decision seem stupid. I don't quite understand how US law works but I thought it was precedent based which meant that once one case had been decided that essentially decided all similar cases unless they were demonstrably different. I don't understand why that isn't the case here.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Having a "monopoly" isn't illegal.

Using your "monopoly" position to pick winners and losers is.

[–] mke@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Small addendum, I believe having an unfair monopoly is actually illegal in the US. Google search is currently on the hook for this.

Yeah, it's not just the market position.

It's how you gain the market position and what you do with it.

[–] nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago

Correct, anticompetitive behavior on its own is legal, so is a monopoly, both at the same time are illegal

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