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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 4 weeks ago (11 children)

Yeah, this makes sense for corporate environments with keys backed up to a centralized location like Active Directory. Not for consumers with no reasonable way to keep some key like this in a safe place as a "break glass in case of emergency" option.

[–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 43 points 4 weeks ago (10 children)

It backs up to the Microsoft Account

Still, some people create an @outlook.com email, set up no recovery options, forget the password, and find themselves locked out.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 9 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

How do you get to your Microsoft account when your computer is locked?

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

If you're doing things properly, you'll know your Microsoft account password or have it in a password manager (and maybe have other account recovery options available like getting a password reset email etc.), and have a separate password for the PC you're locked out of, which would be the thing you'd forgotten. If someone isn't computer-literate, it's totally plausible that they'd forget both passwords, have no password manager, and not have set up a recovery email address, and they'd lose all their data if they couldn't get into their machine.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Even if you have your Microsoft account password, it doesn't help when you can't even boot into Windows.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Most people have smartphones these days where they would be able to log into their account and grab the recovery key if it's backed up. If they don't have a phone, they will know someone that does, or a library with a computer.

Bear in mind that non-techy users don't get the option to opt out of a Microsoft account in the OOBE now, so most should have their key backed up without thinking about it

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Do they also know their password? Hopefully they didn't save it on the PC that is now locked (a lot of them probably did, if they saved it at all).

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago

A Microsoft password is more recoverable than a lost bitlocker recovery key.

Also, it feels worth highlighting that every other OS targeted at general consumers encrypts user data by default. Microsoft is really just getting up to speed with where everyone else was like 5 years ago.

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