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I don't see it that way. Long vehicles at IKEA, Lowe's, hell even Michael's -- I don't care. Their parking lots are built for that. And the stuff they get.
Long vehicles in a fucking Trader Joes, definitely asshole material.
It really depends on WHERE you park if you are going to park this way. Parking it in the boonies, way way out at the end of the parking lot? Saintly.
Parking it as close to the entrance as possible? Dungeon. 1000 years dungeon.
But generally I agree. This is the purpose of a truck. To haul heavy items that would not fit in a standard or small vehicle. But don't buy a fucking truck for status or for your office job.
How about backing up the truck bed into the entrance doors, so when you get done, you just load it straight into the back of your truck, THEN exit the building, and drive off?
Launched into the sun.
Ikea does have loading zones for this purpose.
Typically you don't PARK in a loading zone.
The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue.
Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
So the people carrying less items of smaller size have an easier time, and the person carrying the larger items to go in the larger truck have to go further away?
Ah yes, logic.
Why not have large parking spaces near the front to accommodate this, not expect people to just park somewhere else.
If you're buying things that necessitate the truck, you won't be carrying them. You'll be rolling your order out on carts. It's a non-issue to have to roll it a bit further.
IKEA and home depot both have loading zones typically where after you're done shopping you can go get your truck, bring it to the front, load up, then be on your way. Costco and Best Buy will let you do it too for big TVs or furniture, and I'm sure other places don't care either. I've definitely parked in the fire lane in front of a Harbor Freight to load up a super heavy hydraulic press and no one cares.
Sam's Club (a warehouse store similar to Costco that's owned by the same company as Walmart) does the same thing. They have a small loading zone in front of the store for people with big purchases.
Yeah, God forbid he wants to actually take stuff home.
That said, if you've got a huge truck (and I live in the country and work blue collar so I get it, sometimes you need one), have a small car too. Trucks aren't cheap, you can afford a Civic for the city.
I’m sure lots of people have stories about getting huge loads home from IKEA in a tiny car.
I once got two 10’ tall wardrobes and a matching dresser home in a Volkswagen.
You’d be amazed what I can get in the back of my 2008 Mini.
I am this person. Packing half a house of furnishings into a Mitsubishi Mirage and then driving like 90 miles back to my house.
I have transported a 7 foot long TV entertainment stand from ikea in my Mustang.
When I bought my Miata, it came with a small utility trailer. I've used that trailer to transport home an 8' tall, 4' wide, solid wood pantry cabinet -- not flat-pack; a custom-built, very heavy antique. Now, I'm sad to say I didn't actually use the Miata to tow it in that instance (I think I used my old 4Runner instead), but the point is I could have, and it would've worked.
Get your truck up to the loading area then. Why are you moving huge loads by hand when you have a perfectly good truck for that?
For shopping at Trader Joe's while they're trying to dissolve the NLRB, yes, also the truck thing
What happened to them? I remember back in the day, they were the place where employees from other unionized supermarkets aspired to work, and when they got there, they were happy as clams and in it for the long haul.
They got bought out, so they no longer have the same ethics.
Didn’t amazon buy them out? Or was that whole foods?
IKEA started as a furniture shipping company (thus the flat packages and the warehouse aesthetic) and many furniture companies like IKEA still ship to your doorstep or beyond often for a similar or better price compared to what individual transport costs.
there is also value in seeing and testing a variety of products in person.
yes, the sane way to buy furniture from Ikea is to visit the showroom to look at everything in-person, and then give them your address for delivery of anything very large.
Except for the part where they charge extra for delivery. If I'm driving there planning to buy large items I might as well make sure to bring a vehicle that can bring my purchases home with me. Usually that means a trailer - and unlike delivery, renting a trailer at IKEA is free where I live (provided you've bought something).
what do you do with the trailer when you get home?
Have it at home overnight and then leave it back at IKEA on my way to work the next day.
Bad faith: "Are you really transporting those products back and forth to test?"
~~Good~~ Better faith: Seeing and testing furniture doesn't imply not using shipping.
Speculation: For many, use value of products seem less important compared to short-term novelty value, i.e. owning over using. Celebrating ownership might require immediate access regardless of location, showing ability to HAUL the products then displays further power.
But they're not only driving to Ikea. They're on our roads and streets and pedestrians and cyclists.
You think this is just his ikea vehicle?
That’s why they have loading areas. Park your land yacht way in the back of the lot or on the street until you’re ready to put your flat pack couch in it.
Yea you're right they should buy a second smaller car for when they go to certain stores...
If it weren't for insurance I'd be doing exactly that. My truck was in bad shape, but would still get from A to B. I would have loved to replace it with a small, efficient vehicle. But you have to have liability insurance on every vehicle, which is idiotic because liability insurance doesn't cover the vehicle being driven.
Yea but the the environmental cost of a second fucking car would completely negate any efficiency benefit it would offer, no?
My truck had enough miles on it it was only valuable as scrap metal. The dealership offered me $100 for it.
Theere wouldn't have been an extra car built because I chose to keep it, but my replacement everyday car would have been more efficient.