this post was submitted on 08 Aug 2024
65 points (94.5% liked)
Asklemmy
43760 readers
1100 users here now
A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions
If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!
- Open-ended question
- Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
- Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
- Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
- An actual topic of discussion
Looking for support?
Looking for a community?
- Lemmyverse: community search
- sub.rehab: maps old subreddits to fediverse options, marks official as such
- !lemmy411@lemmy.ca: a community for finding communities
~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
HVAC systems.
When my wife and I we had to replace our forced air furnace and central air system in the late autumn due to carbon monoxide literally the evening before our son was to be born, I felt under pressure to get something in place.
I told them I needed a more powerful air conditioner for all the unique heat-generating equipment in my basement, especially since our old system had trouble keeping up. They said that the new unit was more than enough for the square footage. I reiterated again, that air conditioners don't cool square footage, they cool BTU's, and the average home doesn't have a grow op and server farm in the basement generating significant heat. Then, they decided to hit me with the old "I've been doing this for {x} decades" speech.
Needless to say, I've had to consolidate servers, stop indoor gardening, replace the bulbs in the house with those shitty blue-hued LED's that can't dim right (and dimmer switches to handle the change in load characteristics), take the weather into account when cooking indoors and clean both sets of A/C coils on a more frequent basis. The air conditioner still can't keep up and when we have a string of hot days, we can't always count on the cooler evenings to get the house back down to "room temperature".
Oh, and now our old chimney drips water into the basement.
Without knowing the heat load calculation or what was installed it's obviously all guesses. But the fact that temps are easily reaching 40+ or 105+, no AC is going to transfer the heat from your house to the outdoors. It's basic science.
Air conditioners aren't actually cooling your house, but instead it's relocating heat. So if it's too hot outside, it won't do anything. heat transfer can only continue until the two objects (condenser outside and the ambient air) have reached thermal equilibrium and are at the same temperature. Once they balance out, it won't do anything.
Infact, getting MORE BTUs on your unit is actually a bad thing since it won't have time to dehumidify your house. This will lead to short cycling of the AC (it'll turn on and off a lot) and you never get cooling. The amount of homeowners that demanded bigger sizes units only to get pissed it's worse is astounding.
The indoor gardening also is TERRIBLE for air conditioners since your feeding so much moisture in the air.
You should look into variable speed compressors and the temps at which refrigerants work. You’re correct on many points but misinformed on others.
I know about inverter compressors, but they cannot defy the laws of thermo dynamics no matter how fast of slow they run. It's impossible. If it's too hot outside, the heat will not escape the condenser and will go right back inside rendering it useless and not cooling.
You will only see benefit with the inverter because it can slow down when it's not hot. If the compressor reaches 45degrees, and it's 40 degrees outside with the condenser in direct sun, you can't extracting much heat meaning it'll take forever to cool.
Refrigerant temps will make a difference, but they still have their limits too. All depends on what's being used. I assume OP was sold R410, low chance they were given the newer r32 or r454b replacements.
I think you're missing something, there are many places that would be near unlivable if AC stopped working at 105f. I'm sure HVAC companies and engineers have found a way around cooling in 105f+
You’re just flatly wrong, the spec page for the humdrum mini split I pulled up first has a max outdoor max ambient operating temp of 52.78c (127f)
My point in bringing up refrigerant temps was to get you to look into it. Heat exchangers are more effective than you believe. No one is trying to convince you that these units defy the laws of physics.