I'm just learning about what all the fuss around Brave is. But I'd be interested to hear how Google seems to be the ethical choice for a daily driver browser currently. It's obviously fine to not want to use Brave, but how is it the inferior choice when compared to Chrome (or even considered a sidegrade)? Even with all the issues mentioned I'd still recommend it as the lesser of the 2 evils compared to Chrome.

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No one is saying Chrome is the ethical choice, why are you reducing this to a 2 options choice?

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

why are you reducing this to a 2 options choice?

I'm not.

No one is saying Chrome is the ethical choice

The commenter I'm replaying to implies they're using Chrome primarily, and then reacted negatively to the mention of Brave. I'm asking how Chrome use is the acceptable choice and Brave is seemingly so bad in comparison.

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 8 points 3 months ago

I don't think the commenter you are replying to is arguing that chrome is a better choice. He or she knows it's bad but didn't make the change out of lazyness (no offence). Change has a cost, especially if it implies changing habits. So people will just delay or avoid them.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago

obviously, but when you have the option of just, not using chrome at all, why would you use anything chromium based to begin with, google is literally the problem here lmao

[+] tdawg@lemmy.world -70 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Lemmy always seems to hate Brave but no one ever says why

[–] majestictechie@lemmy.fosshost.com 164 points 3 months ago (2 children)

shady issues in the past from company
heavily integrated with crypto (controversial for some)
CEO is a transphobe
it's still Chrome under the hood

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 125 points 3 months ago (2 children)

CEO is also homophobic and a covid skeptic
the browser used to modify crypto exchange URLs to add it's affiliate code to it
it used to collect donations for content creators without their consent

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 67 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why people always forget the simple:

Brave is an Ad company that want to replace google ads

Switching Google to Brave is not an upgrade is a sidegrade.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Firefox is

Dependant on Google's ad revenue
Joining the advertising market themselves

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Dependant on Google's money, the majority of Google comes from ads but not all of them. The deal is not directly with ads, is the default search engine on Firefox.
This is recently, sucks a lot but we did not see yet how they'll use that with the browser.

More importantly the biggest difference is Brave want to be like Google, is the goal of the company. Mozilla is funding the project in the shittiest way possible but is not the end goal.

[–] yrmitz@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

So you are sure that Google and Mozilla doesn't employ any homophobics? They obviously have some sort of mind reader?

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 9 points 3 months ago

You are right, I should have been more specific. He's openly homophobic. I'm also pretty sure that's not the case for Mozilla as he was Mozilla's CEO and was pushed out over this specific thing.

I don't know why you are shifting from CEO to employees.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Ah ya I didn't know about them being transphobic. That's a shame

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 27 points 3 months ago

I don't know, I've seen answers to this so many times on Lemmy.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

I've seen this answered so many times it'd make your head spin, looney-toons style. If you don't know then you haven't been paying any attention.

[–] frankgrimeszz@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

My personal reason, I looked at their code and it was amateur town. Hacked together trash. There’s a proper way to modify Chromium and they didn’t follow any of it. In contrast, Vivaldi’s coders knew what they were doing. I don’t actively use or support Chrome, but if you’re going to do something, do it right.